Jacques Werth

 

On most days there are times when you feel terrified.  One of those times is when you are scheduled to have a closed meeting with your boss.  You even dread the possibility of accidentally meeting him in a hallway.  Another is when you read things like “ERS Research says the average tenure of sales manages is now less than two years.”  You also feel terrified when you realize that you are trying to do too much and very little is actually working.

You feel frustrated because your job is to have your sales force increase sales well over quota and it is not happening.  Too few of your district managers and salespeople seem willing to be led by you.  More frustration is created when you learn that your best salespeople are not using the new CRM system, which you bought at great expense.  You can’t make them use it, because if you do they might quit and go to work for a competitor.  Even worse, their defiance may spread to the rest of the sales force and threaten your effectiveness.

You question your own competence because a higher percentage of good salespeople are leaving the company than last year.  Furthermore, your new hires are taking too long to train and too many of them seem certain to fail.

You feel thwarted when you try to get more cooperation from the marketing, production, customer service, and accounting managers.  They seem to be too busy with their own problems to care about yours.

You are starting to have doubts about your sales abilities.  You are spending a lot of time trying to close a few very big sales opportunities, and now they do not look very promising.  You feel indecisive about continuing on that course.

Your primary job function is to know what is going on in your department and manage for optimum results.  You feel negligent because you haven’t made the time to analyze the sales activities of your sales force or even read their sales forecasts.

You feel guilty because you are working too long and too hard without much in the way of tangible results.  And, your spouse is insisting that you spend more time with your family.

Through all that, you are doing your best to act competent and be competent while trying to hide your doubts and fears.

It doesn’t have to be that way.

 

I was doing research on how top salespeople sell and I read about Bill in a contractor’s equipment magazine.  He was the top salesman with the leading manufacturer of several lines of contractors’ equipment.  So, I called him up and arranged to go out on a few sales calls to observe his sales process.

When we were driving to his first sales call, I asked him, “What is it you do that’s different from what other salespeople do?”

“I don’t know, because I don’t pay attention to anyone else,” he replied.

I asked, “How did you decide to become a salesman?”

“I didn’t actually decide to be a salesman until after I realized I was one.  It started when I got a job as a clerk in a paint store chain where most of the customers were painting contractors.  So, I did everything I could to learn about paint.  After a few months, the manager quit and the district manager said that I was now the manager and he would hire someone else to be the clerk.”

“Then what?” I asked.

“Well, I got along real well with the contractors and our sales doubled.  The District Manager kept dropping in to see what I was doing.  He kept telling me that I should be friendlier and more accommodating to the customers.  When he realized that I wasn’t doing it his way, he started giving me poor ratings, in spite of my sales success.

“Finally, the Regional Manager stopped by.  He asked me if there was anything he could do to help me with my progress.  I told him it would really be good if he kept the district manager out of my store.  He said that he would not do that.  I did not argue about it, but I was not happy.”

“And then?” I said.

“Some of the contractors were telling me that I could make a lot more money selling other stuff to them at their offices and job sites.  Then, one of them told me he knew of an opening for a salesman at a contractor’s equipment supplier.  He named a few other contractors that came into the store who also bought from them.  So, I called those guys and asked them to call the manager at the equipment supplier and tell him that he should hire me.  Soon afterward, the manager called me and offered me the job.”

“And you accepted over the phone?”

“No.  I told him I wanted to meet him later that day.  When we met, I told him that I don’t sell like anyone else he’s ever met and if that was a problem to tell me right then and we could part ways.  He said, as long as I sold honestly, he was not going to tell me how to sell.  And that’s how I became a salesman.”

 
I got a call from someone who wanted to learn High Probability Selling.  "What do you sell?" I asked him.
 
He said, "I don’t sell anything.  I’m the Engineering Manager."
 
"Why do you want to learn High Probability Selling?" I asked.
 
"I’m the youngest manager in a huge division.  All the other managers are at least ten years older than me.  They don’t take me seriously and some even resent me.  I can’t get my job done well without their cooperation.  I read your book and I want to learn how to communicate the way top salespeople do."
 
During the HPS course, the "product" he was selling was the redesign of all division software using a modular structure, which enabled quick, inexpensive program changes and add-ons.  That is what he designed his prospecting offers around and that is what he used in all of his role-plays.
 
After he completed the twelve week course, he used High Probability Prospecting to get cooperative, one-to-one meetings with each of the other managers.  It took frequent contacts, each time with a different "prospecting offer" before he was able to meet with all of them.  During those meetings, he used High Probability Selling to learn what the conditions of satisfaction were for each manager, which had to be met in order to gain their full cooperation.
 
This approach was so successful that he now has two job titles.  He is still the division’s Engineering Manager, and he is also the Special Assistant to the division Vice President.  He will become the division’s Deputy Vice President when his replacement is fully trained to take over his engineering manager job.
 
Selling is about effective communication, and so is management.
 

One morning last week, I took a call from Josh.  He told me that he bought our book “High Probability Selling” and read it 8 times.  However, he hasn’t been able to sell anything.

“What have you been selling?” I asked.

“A network marketing business opportunity,” said Josh.  “I must be doing something wrong, because I know High Probability Selling has to work.”

“High Probability Selling doesn’t work for network marketing.  How did you get into that?” I asked.

“I was invited to a seminar and the presenter explained how you can make a ton of money in network marketing, I mean two or three hundred thousand a year.  A lot of people are making more than one hundred thousand in their first year.”

“Do you really believe that?” I asked.

“Yes, is there something wrong with it?”

“Well how are you doing?” I asked.

“I tried to sell the opportunity but nobody is interested,” he said.

“That’s probably because you’re not very good at lying,” I said.  “You must realize by now that the presenter was lying to you and to everyone else in the seminar.”

“I kind of suspected it, but they must be very good liars,” he said.  “So, what kind of business can I get into where I can make a lot of money without lying?”

“Do you have experience selling anything?”

“No, but I think I can learn to sell,” he said.

I asked, “Why do you think that?”

“Because I read your book and I just know I could sell that way.”

“What kind of work have you done in the past?”

“Mostly light construction, like home improvements.  But there are no jobs now because all of the skilled construction workers are fighting over the home improvement jobs.  And, there are not enough of those jobs around.”

“Some people make good money selling life insurance.  However, only about ten percent who go into that field survive.” I said.

“Do you think I could make it selling life insurance?” said Josh.

“I have no idea.  If you have the money, you could have a behavioral profile done that is a very good predictor of how well you will do in almost any profession.  But, the good profiles are expensive,” I said.  “Can you live on very little commissions while you are learning the business?”

“Yes, I could do that for at least six months, no problem,” he said.  “How do I get that kind of job?”

“By doing High Probability Prospecting, just like you read in our book.  But, now the product you are selling is you.  Can you do that?”

“I guess I’ll find out”, he said.

“Most insurance agencies will not give you a salary.  You only get commissions on what you sell,” I said.  “Also, make sure that they will let you sell the way you want to sell.”

“Thanks very much,” he said.

I said, “You are welcome,” and we both hung up.

Josh called again a day or two later.

“Well, I got a few job offers.  I just need to pass the licensing test,” said Josh.  “They told me that it is okay for me to use any sales method I want, as long as it is legal, ethical and does not get them in trouble with the compliance rules of the insurance companies they represent.”

“How did you get the job offers?” I asked.

“Right after I spoke to you, I wrote out a prospecting offer, and called all of the insurance agencies listed on the Internet that are within twenty miles of where I live.  On most of those calls I could not even get to talk to anyone in charge.  But, I did talk to about ten or fifteen agency managers and three of them asked me to come in for an interview.”

“So you had appointments for 3 job interviews after your first day of prospecting,” I said.  “What happened on the interviews?”

“When we met, the agency managers all asked me how I was going to find prospects.  I told them that I was going to use the phone to find prospects the same way I found them.  They thought that was great, and they all offered me a job.”

“Have you accepted any of the job offers?” I asked.

“No, not yet.  I want to finish prospecting my list first, and then decide which job I want.”

I thanked him and asked his permission to write his story on our blog.  I also asked him to keep in contact and to let me know how well he does selling life insurance.

 
High Probability Selling is scary.  It’s a radical departure from what most salespeople are doing.  It’s hard to believe that it will actually work.
 
The Fear of Loss
You may be afraid that you will lose sales if you don’t push for every single one.  If you are not closing enough sales now, you may believe that allowing your prospects to say “no” will make things much worse.  It may be difficult to believe that accepting “no” allows you to move on much more quickly to your next “yes”.
 
The Fear of Rejection
You may be afraid that the pain of rejection will be much worse when you listen to your prospects say “no” to you again and again.  With High Probability Selling, you will hear “no” a lot more often than you do now.  If you can learn to accept that, then you will also hear “yes” a lot more often than you do now.
 
The Fear of Inadequacy
You may be afraid of starting over and becoming a beginner again.  You may feel reasonably competent with the way you have been selling.  It is normal to be afraid that you may not be able to master something you don’t thoroughly understand and have never tried before.  If you are able to move ahead in spite of that fear, you could be on your way to becoming a highly competent sales producer.
 
Fear of Fear
Before my first fight, my boxing coach taught me something about fear.  “You can either walk away now and be terrified for the rest of your life, or you can get into the ring and deal with it.”
 
My first job after college was selling forklift trucks in an industrial section of New York City.  I was prospecting on foot because telephones were too expensive.
 
I walked into the main office of a company that made valves.  I told the receptionist I needed to speak with John.
 
An angry-faced man stuck his head out of one of offices behind her and yelled, “Get rid of that *** salesman!”
 
She shrugged her shoulders and mouthed “Sorry.”
 
So I left.
 
About three weeks later, when I was in that neighborhood, I again went into the same office, saw the same receptionist, and handed her my business card.
 
“Is John available?” I asked.
 
“What is this in reference to?” she asked.
 
“Forklift trucks”, I said.
 
Before she could do anything, the same guy came out of the same office and hollered, “Tell that *** salesman I’m not interested in whatever he is selling.”
 
She gave me a meek smile of embarrassment before I left.
 
A few weeks later and I was right back in the same office.  I said to the receptionist, “Would you tell John that I want to talk to him about forklift trucks.”
 
She picked up her phone and dialed a two digit number and said, “Jacques Werth is here to talk to you about forklifts.” Then, she hung up and said, “He’s not interested.”
 
The next time I came into the office, the receptionist told me that her boss was in a particularly foul mood, much worse than usual, and that I should probably just go.
 
“I heard that!  Who are you talking to?”, came the angry voice from the office behind her.
 
Before she could answer, John came out of the office, looked at me and said, “It’s you, the forklift guy.  Get your *** in my office!”
 
Why are those words so alluring?
 
The most successful salespeople seldom read articles with those words in the title.  Such articles are for salespeople who think that selling is just a bag of tips and tricks. 
 
There are no secret tips.  There are no magic tricks.  Effective selling is about finding a sales process that works, following that process carefully, and measuring the results.  Pay attention to doing it right.  You can’t learn how to sell just by reading articles or participating in sales discussion groups.  Although it is possible to learn to sell by reading a lot of books, this doesn’t work for most people. 
 
Books and CD’s can teach you a great deal about selling, but not much about the step-by-step details on how to actually do it.  For that, we recommend training and practice. 
 
The idea of “tips and tricks” is just another sales trick.
 
 
Closing is hard when you try to find a way to qualify your prospects.
Closing is easy when your prospects will not allow you to disqualify them.
 
Closing is hard when you have to sell prospects on giving you an appointment.
Closing is easy when the prospect is ready to spend time and money to get a problem solved.
 
Closing is hard when a prospect is merely “interested”.
Closing is easy when a prospect wants to get answers to his or her problem.
 
Closing is hard when you have to push the prospect to buy.
Closing is easy when neither the prospect nor you feel any pressure.
 
Closing is hard when the prospect doesn’t know that he or she needs your product or service.
Closing is easy when the prospect already wants the benefits of your type of product or service.
 
Closing is hard when the prospect is not ready to decide.
Closing is easy when the prospect is ready, willing, and able to buy.
 
Closing is hard when you have to make the prospect do something.
Closing is easy when you realize that you can’t make the prospect do anything.

Our next workshop on High Probability Prospecting begins on Monday 24 August 2009.  For details, please visit www.HighProbSell.com/workshops/ws20090824A.html
 
We invite you to leave comments on our blog.
 

The fastest way to find the sales position you want is to use methods that are different from what others are doing.  Sales managers want salespeople who are smart and confident enough to apply their prospecting and selling skills to find a sales position.

If you were trained in High Probability Prospecting, then here is an outline of how you might use it to find the position you want:

  • Do a search on the Internet or with a list broker and make a list of all of the companies that look attractive to you and that you believe employ people with your skill set.  Be sure to get the names of their sales executives.  Make it a big list – at least 300 sales managers.  Be sure that your list is sorted by job titles and has phone numbers.  Many community libraries have access to list brokers and can provide you with free lists.  Ask the research librarian.
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  • Design a clear and very concise Prospecting Offer that is intended simply to find someone who wants to hire someone like you.  Here is an example.
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    “This is Jane Salesperson.  I’m an experienced, conscientious salesperson in the xyz field.  I can find and make appointments with prospects that want your products and services and close many of them.  Is that the kind of salesperson you want for your department?”
     
    Your prospecting offer should contain no more than 45 words (fewer is better), and should be simple and direct.
     
  • Call all the sales managers of the companies on your list.  If you don’t have their direct-dial numbers, it’s easy to get connected to someone in the sales department who will look it up for you.  It works to tell them, “I need your help.”
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  • Present your prospecting offer.  If the manager says he/she does not need anyone, you say “Are there any other sales managers in your company who do?”  If not, you say “okay, good bye.”  Do not try to sell your way into an appointment.
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    If the manager asks you to send your résumé, you say, “I don’t put my résumé in the mail.  I’ll bring it with me if you want to meet me.  Do you want to set up an appointment?”
     
    If the manager tells you to contact the HR department, you say “Okay, good bye.”  Do not contact HR.  Do not send them your résumé.  Résumés are processed by computers, and the odds are too great that you will get dumped into the “rejected” file – permanently.
     
    If the manager says “yes”, you ask “when?”  However, be prepared to handle a preliminary telephone interview.  Have a list of questions you want answered before you will commit to the appointment.
     
  • Do not accept the first offer you get unless it’s the best position you could hope for.  The people who use this system usually get from two to four offers within a month.  Thus, it is generally better to ask for a couple of weeks to think it over.
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  • You will probably reach between 10% and 15% of the sales managers you call.  Just keep dialing.  The average person who uses this system can do about 60 calls per hour.  Once you have it down to a routine, dialing 200 numbers per day and reaching 20 to 30 sales managers is pretty easy.  The biggest mistake you can make is to spend your time talking with someone who did not say “yes” to your prospecting offer.
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  • You can reach most of your list within 2 or 3 weeks.  Then, start to call all of them again.  You are likely to get at least as many positive replies during your second round of calls as you did on the first.  When you finish the list a second time, start over again.  Just keep going.  It works best if you change your offers so that each prospect hears at least 3 different offers before you begin to repeat yourself.

Prospecting Tip:  Many sales managers are in their offices on Saturday mornings without their gatekeepers.

Remember, if you are willing to take “No” for an answer each time you call, you will find more “Yes” answers sooner.

 

by Jacques Werth and Carl Ingalls

The two most important decision making factors for the vast majority of people who are making a significant buying decision are:
  1. How much do I TRUST this salesperson?
  2. How much do I RESPECT this salesperson?

How do you get your prospects
to trust and respect you?

Showing your testimonials, reference letters, and independent testing laboratory reports will not get most people to trust you. If they haven’t decided to trust you yet, they aren’t ready to trust your documentation.

Showing a deep interest in their problems is not the answer either. They know that you are looking for a problem that your products or services can solve.

Talking about their problems intelligently to show your expertise will not get the prospect’s respect. They have to feel that they respect you before they can respect your suggestions.

How do you get your prospects to trust and respect you?

What if trying to “get” someone to trust and respect you is what causes people to not trust you and to not respect you?

 

Many salespeople have been taught that they should know as much as possible about a prospect before they make a prospecting call.  Depending on the type of prospects that you are calling, the research could take between five minutes and perhaps forty-five minutes.  All that, for a call to someone who is far more likely to say “No” than “Yes.”

You should generally do only as much research as it takes to get the name and phone number of the prospect before you call.  In most cases that means that you must define who is most likely to have a need for your type of products and services, and the money to buy what you are selling.  Therefore, you must make a list of all of the demographics of your ideal customers and prospects.

If your market is consumers, some of those demographics could be:  age, family status, income, net worth, zip code, etc.

If your market is business, or institutional, some of those demographics could be:  industry, job title, size of company, number of employees, etc.

Once you have the list, contact a reputable list broker and buy a prospecting list of about 750 prospects, complete with phone numbers.  The costs may range from 11¢ to 45¢ per name.

That is all the knowledge you will need to call the people on your list and offer them your product or service.  Once you have presented your offer, most of them will say “No”.  All that means is they are not ready to buy now.  In some cases they will tell you that you are talking to the wrong person and they will give you the name of someone else to call.  In some cases they will say “Yes”.  Once you have set up an appointment with a prospect, that is the time to do research on whom you are going to meet.

 

The next High Probability Selling Workshop starts on Wednesday 29 July 2009.  This workshop covers the High Probability Selling process and a basic understanding of how it works.  There will be one workshop session per week for six weeks, and exercises will be assigned between sessions.   Sessions will be every Wednesday from 10:30 AM to noon (Eastern Time, USA).  Tuition is $775 (USD) per participant.

  • Small group interactive sessions via teleclass led by a certified HPS instructor (Jacques Werth). 
  • These are 100% interactive discussion format, and therefore each workshop is limited to 10 participants.   All sessions are live, with no pre-recorded information.
  • Sessions are held once per week, and are approximately 90 minutes in length.
  • Action steps are assigned between sessions to provide real world “learn by doing” and practice opportunities for each part of the process.
  • Each session is an interactive blend of instruction, covering the fundamentals of the High Probability process and tools.  It includes role-playing and coaching based upon the students’ experience while implementing the process.
  • A complete workbook and materials will be mailed to you before the workshop begins.

For more information, you may visit our website at www.HighProbSell.com

To enroll in this workshop, you may order online (click here), or call 800-394-7762, or email jacquesw@highprobsell.com.

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